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JC Anderson Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.07.09 14:35:00 - [1] Edited by: JC Anderson on 09/07/2010 14:39:46 Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Amarr Supremacist I, too, dislike everything there is about Sokratesz. In other news, the baby frog in my aquarium just ate a fly, he looked super happy about it too ^^ Sorry to say, but I hate your frog. I simply do not feel as if I'm fitting in until I declare my hatred for _SOMETHING_. Sadly, I am more familiar with frogs than I am with any of the current CSM and I find it hard to hate somebody I know little about. Now on to the topic of empire dwellers such as myself.... Don't assume we are all of the same mindset or motivation simply because we choose to remain in high security space. We all pay to play this game and we all care enough to deserve equal respect when it comes to our views on the future of Eve. In 06 I lived in 0.0 as part of the ASCN with the Merchant Marines. After that period we went to KOS and not long after I became CEO of the corp. I handed the reigns off to another player due to time constraints on my end. Eventually I ended up back in the NPC corp DCMI and this is where I have remained for just over a year now. Surprisingly enough I've been having a blast. I enjoyed 0.0 quite a bit but have enjoyed helping new players in DCMI even more. I often run into other former ASCN members that are in the same boat as myself and have also decided to remain in empire for the time being. Ankhesentapemkah secured so many votes because she concentrated on garnering the respect of hi-sec players who normally are all but ignored during CSM campaigns. In doing so she ended up being favored by a large number of players who likely wouldn't have voted at all under normal circumstances. I however did not vote for the Queen Of Spoons due to some of her off kilter remarks about player pirates and her volatile nature when dealing with those who did not share her views. I've never had anything against players who choose to plunder and pillage. They pay to play the game just as I do and have every right to do so in whatever way they enjoy most. In all honesty I doubt the game would be nearly as fun without having to look over my shoulder and be paranoid. But that's neither here nor there. Despite not voting for her myself, I can see why others did. It's just a shame that she had to be such an unstable individual. Its worth pointing out that with the numbers she brought in, you can be sure that other empire dwellers will be encouraged to step forth as potential CSM's in the next election. With that in mind, it would be foolish for ANY future candidate to ignore the high security voters.
JC Anderson Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.07.09 14:56:00 - [2] Originally by: Zenst Originally by: drendell csm isnt reall that useful anymore next time all my votes are going to cat'O ninetails WHAT! How can you in one single discarded sentence manage to say the CSM is useless and next CSM your going to vote for so in so. The King is dead, long live the King - logic does not apply here. Indeed if CCP were to stop the CSM, I highly suspect you would be one of the first to complain about that. Ask yourself this - if there was no CSM, would we the players be better of than we are now; Then when you have worked out that the answear is "NO", then my son you will be a man. But all this lambasting of the CSM based upon a tabloid headline fact filter is utterly insulting to not only the current CSM members, but also those who stood before them. Do some research, see how much effort they put into it, its not just a holiday, far from it. If you care about the CSM, you will apprecieate what they do achieve, and not judge them about a persons shortcommings. If you wish to do that, go watch Big Brother, be right up your street that would. Otherwise accept the facts and move on, if the person involved posts elsewere about what happened in more detail then I'm sure CCP will enlighten us to more of the real facts, either way it don't change a thing. But all these pages discussing what, somebody broke a rule that shouldn't of been broken. Realy is that simple after all. No need to taint the other CSM's in the same brush out of ignorance now is there. Now that's the type of post I like to see.
JC Anderson Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.07.10 00:17:00 - [3] Originally by: Bagehi Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow Hey, The Initiative plus its sub-alliances have 3486 members, and after I promised them all exotic dancers and livestock they came out in force for me. Just so you know, the cost of buying the votes of an entire alliance is about 100m iskies. Trebor "A stripper in every pod" Daehdoow Added you. Same.
JC Anderson Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2010.08.27 04:20:00 - [4] Originally by: El'Niaga There was an Eva Jobse that ran on a third party ticket in her homeland. It is possible she's moved onto politics in real life. That is in fact her. She is part of the pirate party, and I find that somewhat amusing considering the current situation.
JC Anderson Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2010.08.29 10:00:00 - [5] Originally by: Sokratesz Now that's just mean Ok I have to admit that I was curious to find out more details about her real world political career. What I read was somewhat of a surprise. If you go to the pirate party's wikipedia entry it lists that of the ten thousand votes cast for pirate party candidates, she came in second!!! And this brings up another curiosity... Doesn't the pirate parties purpose and ideals stand in direct contrast with the very nature of an NDA? Now the question would be if she was already part of it when she became a csm and if that in itself was a partial reason behind her dismissal. Party Party Wikipedia entry
JC Anderson Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2010.08.30 01:55:00 - [6] Edited by: JC Anderson on 30/08/2010 02:01:53 Originally by: mazzilliu i dont know, i think you might be mistaking them for Wikileaks :] No the Pirate Party in itself kind of stands against the concept of NDA. ;) They are the ones that have been standing up for the sites such as The Pirate Bay torrent trackers and whatnot. Even going as far as to host the Pirate Bay on their own servers where they can't be touched due to the laws involved when it comes to political party private servers. They are also planning (Or already have) to start their own party funded ISP with no logging what so ever and full user privacy. It has caused a bit of controversy lately. I wasn't saying Wikipedia stands against the concept of NDA, but instead that the Pirate Party does. ;) Wikipedia just happened to be where the info was on the party that listed Eva's name. Which is why I linked it... And I know Wikipedia and Wikileaks are two completely different creatures, but I think you may have misunderstood my last post and wanted to clarify. (Note I am not saying I am for or against the entire concept of the Pirate Party. Just bringing it to light as it involves Eva.) Originally by: Sinister Dextor You are misinterpreting the results a little. while The Pirate Party won 10,471 votes nationwide, Holland runs it's elections on a party-list propotional representation system, and Eva was second on the list submitted by the pirate party. That means if the party had gained enough votes for one seat, the first on the list would have won a seat, and if enough for two seats, then Eva would have won a seat. Needless to say, they were very far from attaining those results. Im also digging around a bit, as it seems that the the memebers council of the Pirate Party has just forced the resignation of it's board, so Eva may be out on her arse again. Ah, it appears that Eva was not on the board, but is a member of the Members Council, as far as I can see, she was one of three 'charged with preparing the party' for the elections. Ahh that would explain it a bit more.. I was a tad bit confused when reading that. I'm curious to see what you find out though in your digging for further information on the topic.
JC Anderson Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.09.12 04:51:00 - [7] Originally by: Andramedae OMG!!! Why isn't this woman in jail and not just banned from an online game?? It's a travesty of justice I tell you!!! I can read sarcasm. ;) I could care less if she's a member of the Pirat Party or not. They are recognized as a real world political party and it's not my place to question that. It is however quite possible that it may have had a part in her NDA breach. And that is where my curiosity stems from.
JC Anderson Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.09.12 22:04:00 - [8] Originally by: FinnAgain Zero No, it wasn't confirmed. There was some fairly well-substantiated speculation, but we didn't ever find out exactly what happened or what time-frame it happened in. Even if it wasn't information from this aborted term on the CSM, it could have been old information that she recently released, or whatever. We simply don't know and probably never will, since Eva's "I'll tell you all tomorrow" blog post was something like two months ago now. True on all counts. I've been surprised about the dead silence on Take-Care as well. Especially considering how over the top she was when defending her position in the past.
JC Anderson Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.09.14 06:49:00 - [9] Edited by: JC Anderson on 14/09/2010 06:51:07 Originally by: TeaDaze Originally by: Yeay Fritg Stuff... Can you please pick one thread and stick to it instead of cross posting the same questions in different places? He apparently quit eve as posted here. So I'm not sure why he is spending his time on these forums in the first place.

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